What was that all about? Your Thoughts on Episode 9

Posted by @abcwhovians on February 24, 2020 at 12:50 AM
Are you confused like me or have you got it all worked out? Let us know what you thought of Ascension of the Cybermen and how the mysterious character Brendan fits into it all! But for those who havent yet seen the episode: Beware! Spoilers!

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14 Comments

Reply MaxHR
3:40 AM on February 24, 2020 
also confused..but intrigued.
guaranteed to bring the audience back for part 2 for sure.
they pack a lot into the eps now, really need to see it twice.
Reply Rumpole
4:45 AM on February 24, 2020 
That was more like it I thought.

I guess the ex copper strapped to the chair was the head cyberman but that's where my understanding ends.

No doubt it will be wrapped up in a neat bundle next week.

As Max said, it was a nice pipe opener for part 2.
Reply Robert
4:44 PM on February 24, 2020 
Once again I started to enjoy the episode, until the tardis crew showed up, then it became a bit ordinary, . I really hope Chip does not do something stupid with this story. The Americans destroyed Star Trek by trying to rewrite the history of the programme, and I think Chip with his sheep personality might do the same thing, from my point of view Doctor Who ended when Capaldi regenerated. Back to the episode , everyone running away, heading for the Cybermans ship,, someone asks where, s Ryan? ( the wooden hat stand) . My heart skipped a beat I actually thought Ryan might be dead , but then, there he was, so sad.
Reply KRSPDS
11:44 PM on February 25, 2020 
This episode had a lot of promise, though with all the storyline jumping it was a little hard to keep track of. I think Brendan is either related to Jack (like Jack he came back from the dead after being shot and falling off a cliff) or the community are early Time Lords - they heal but do not regenerate as current Time Lords do, and at the end of their lives they wipe the memory and restore them back to infant stage ...though how Brendan's adopted father and police mentor did not age is harder to explain. I also thought that they may be human/Time Lord hybrids, explaining longevity and healing. I also wonder if the so-called Timeless Child is related to Jack (a fixed point - doesn't die, ages slowly) or even River Song and one of the Doctor's ancestors (the half human on the mothers side, for example).
The new warrior class Cybermen had an interesting look - somewhere between the classic 1970's/80's versions and the last ones we saw.
Overall the episode was a little more of the same - nothing to really make it stand out with only two exceptions, 1) Brendan and his community and 2) how Gallifrey and the Master come in to the story (and still have it make sense). At least there is only one more episode to go, and we can hope that next year will a) be the last of Jodie's Doctor and b) be better than this year (or last season). In all I would rate this episode 3/5.
Reply Paul Lawrence
3:40 AM on February 27, 2020 
Loved it-so scary. Brendan was dropped on planet earth by the Master to create chaos and confusion . Good to see the Doctor taking a dominant role for a change.
Reply Bertie Lissie
4:03 AM on February 27, 2020 
Brilliant episode. Scary and thrilling. Brendan was "planted" by the Master to create chaos and confusion in the future.(I think :) ) Great to have the Doctor having a more dominant role. The Master seems to be manipulating the time stream in order to to hurt.destroy or confuse the Doctor.
Reply ClassicFangirl
8:04 AM on February 27, 2020 
More and more I'm seeing the Whittaker era as the Star Trek Enterprise of Doctor Who. A good idea realised poorly. And reliant way too much on the unofficial audio book and comics for ideas - fanon that most viewers know nothing about. Visually good but lacking story integrity.

My assumption is that Brendan is both the Cyberiam's psyche and an allegory of old fandom (telling us 'thanks but we're killing you now as this show isn't for you').
And the cyberiam will become The Matrix the timelords use to get their power.

Such a pity, I loved seeing Asshad (the half cyber controller half Lytton from the 80s) as a very nasty cyber leader. And the characters have great potential.

If the flipping interdimensional frog turns up I'm out
Reply ClassicFangirl
8:21 AM on February 27, 2020 
P.S. Chris Chibnal is well known for disliking the end of Colin Baker's run and large parts of the Sylvester McCoy era. My theory is Ruth is a regeneration following Colin Baker (hence the shirt with a more tasteful version of his coat) who worked with the Timelords. And Mel was pulled forward to the end of the Trial from a future regeneration.
So yes a Dr following a trial but not between 2 and 3.

This is Chibnal's way of getting rid of Tennant's regeneration-hand in the numbering and fixing the trial of the timelord
Reply SarahJane4Ever
4:57 PM on February 27, 2020 
Another fine episode to add to what has been an exceptional series in my opinion. 13's acting is perfect given the inherent confusion running through the episode all leading, of course, to the return of the Master in the closing moments and the set up for next week conclusion. Loved the cyber leader - a proper villain, that one. Enjoying the interplay between Graham and his new 'friend' - would love to see that work out. And while this may come as a complete heresy for some, I am not bothered at all about potential inconsistencies in the time lines of the past regenerations. Its not like the show has been an absolute slave to its canon since its inception, has it?. Mix it up, I say. Looking forward greatly to the conclusion and to lots more Jodie in 2021! As an episode setting up a grand finale, this one is 4.5 out of 5 for me.
Reply Rumpole
7:27 PM on February 27, 2020 
SarahJane4Ever says...
Another fine episode to add to what has been an exceptional series in my opinion. 13's acting is perfect given the inherent confusion running through the episode all leading, of course, to the return of the Master in the closing moments and the set up for next week conclusion. Loved the cyber leader - a proper villain, that one. Enjoying the interplay between Graham and his new 'friend' - would love to see that work out. And while this may come as a complete heresy for some, I am not bothered at all about potential inconsistencies in the time lines of the past regenerations. Its not like the show has been an absolute slave to its canon since its inception, has it?. Mix it up, I say. Looking forward greatly to the conclusion and to lots more Jodie in 2021! As an episode setting up a grand finale, this one is 4.5 out of 5 for me.


I've got nothing against Jodie personally, I just think that her portrayal of The Doctor is scatter-brained and childish.

It makes me appreciate Capaldi more.

Jon Pertwee was the best imo, a gentleman but someone who was always in charge, but that obviously dates me doesn't it ? :)
Reply TonyW64
2:20 AM on February 28, 2020 
Brendan = Garda = Police = Tardis which is a police box? Links?
Wants to make a difference? Is he the early Doctor going out into the Universe being a doctor of fixing things up?
Master's comment that everything you know is a lie, so is this Chibnall's way of completely rerouting and rethinking Doctor Who as a whole, so everything we think we know about Cybermen, Daleks, Timelords, everything has been a lie and con, which will allow him to freely write future storylines without being tied to the previous Doctor Who history? Hmmmmmmm
Reply MaxHR
5:00 PM on February 29, 2020 
could Brendan, the baby in the basket , be the timeless child?
and a time lord? (he did 'regenerate' after falling off the cliff)
and did we see him being turned into a cyber man near the end?

Guess i'll find out in 24 hours via iview.......
Reply Andrew
9:23 AM on March 8, 2020 
The question is how can any genuine Whovians still pretend to have any enthusiasm for the show. I mean, the show's quality dipped in the 80s but it could always recover. he last 2 seasons have killed the show while Chibnall dances on its grave. I can tolerate the anti-male propaganda but I won't tolerate boring stories, weak characters and the Doctor - for the first time - being played by someone out of their depth.
Reply Ms Faery
1:15 AM on April 8, 2020 
ð???ð??» nope
Don't care much for air- headed female DW, bring back the men as the Doctor should be ð??ª